Q: I just had a brief look at your internet page on 'BORN AGAIN'. I dont wanna
get into a massive discussion about what it means but
i thought i would just send an email stating what i thought about it. I
believe you are way off when it comes to what you wrote about being born
again. So far off that when people read it & accept it as 'truth' they will
perish because they never truly met Jesus. I would like to commend this to
you (a link to another site) & if you have the time to read it then it would
be a great study. Let me know what you think if you ever read it.
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A:
I provide
evidence in my article, "Born Again--What Did Jesus Mean?" that the terms "born
again" (John 3:3, 7) and "new birth" (1 Peter 1:3) are not synonymous. Seeing
that you only had a "brief" look at the article explains why you probably missed
the main points.
There are many articles on the internet that explain "born again" the way the
article does that you provided a link to. But there are also a few other
conflicting views posted. A couple of days ago I received a link to another
interpretation, which explained that a person is "born again" upon his
resurrection in heaven; relying heavily on the argument that Jesus is the "first
born" in this regard.
Now, what do you think? When Jesus told Nicodemus that he and the nation must be
"born again," could he have referred to "a new birth to a living hope.
. .reserved in the heavens for you?" Would Jesus have criticized Nicodemus, with
the words: "Are you a teacher of Israel and yet do not know these things?" when
Nicodemus could not possibly have known anything about the new birth, it being God's "sacred secret"
and not revealed until after the outpouring of the holy spirit at Pentecost?
(John 3:7,10; 1 Peter 1:3,4; Eph. 1:8-14)
Also to consider, when Nicodemus applied a fleshly interpretation to the term "born again,"
such as entering the womb of his mother a second time, Jesus made it clear that
"what has been born from the flesh is flesh, and what has been born from the
spirit is spirit." The flesh and the spirit have nothing in common. In
fact, Paul
wrote that the flesh is against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh,
"for these are opposed to each other." (Gal. 5:16,17) In other words, one is not
first born from the flesh, and then born again from the spirit. Being
born again, "from water and the spirit," means that this same must have
happened at least once before. Did it? Paul writes: "Now I do not want you to be
ignorant, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud and all passed
through the sea and all got baptized into Moses by means of the cloud and of the
sea; and all ate the same spiritual food and all drank the same spiritual drink.
For they used to drink from the spiritual rock-mass that followed them, and that
rock-mass meant the Christ." (1 Cor. 10:1,2) Instead of being baptized
into Moses, as was the case with the first covenant, the Jews needed to be
baptized again into the one pictured by Moses, Jesus Christ, the mediator of the
new covenant. Thus they would be born again, once more, a second time.
God had made the covenant with Israel at Mount Sinai where they were born as
his nation. At that time
he also foretold his intention of raising up a future prophet from their midst who
would be like Moses. (Deut. 18:18,19) The Jews understood this prophet to
be the Messiah. Nicodemus would have known this along with the promise of the
new covenant, foretold by Jeremiah. (Jer. 31:31-33; Heb. 8:7-13; 9:11-22) Acknowledging that Jesus must be from God,
it should have been natural for Nicodemus to come to the conclusion that this prophet like Moses was
indeed Jesus. Logically, he would be the mediator of the foretold new covenant as Moses had been of the
old covenant. Since the new covenant was to replace the old one, it would also
have been possible for Nicodemus to understand that God's
people needed to be born
again, for a second time, by being brought into this new covenant. Reasonably, only those who had been born into the old covenant could be
"born again" into the new covenant. Keep in mind, also, that
Jesus was not referring to the Gentiles when he told Nicodemus that "you people
must be born again." Jesus told a Phoenician woman on one occasion, "I was not
sent forth to any but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matt. 15:24;
10:5,6)
The new covenant would include also people of the nations, for Christ died for all mankind.
But Gentiles could not be born "again" since they were not
party to the first covenant. (Eph. 2:12) Non-Jews would be born from God, from
above, for their first time (as were the Jews at Mt. Sinai) by accepting Christ,
getting baptized in water and receiving the holy spirit, thus being brought into
the new covenant also. There would no longer be any distinction between a Jew
and a Gentile, people of the nations. (Matt. 28:19,20; Rom. 10:12,13)
Simply put: When the first covenant became "obsolete" and vanished away, the
basis for a relationship with God for the Jews as his people disappeared with
it. To continue to be his people they now needed to be brought into the new
covenant, that is, they needed to be "born again," or once more. Isaiah
refers to a future time when "Zion has come into labor pains as well as giving
birth to her sons," and God's new nation would be "born at one time," in "one
day." This took place at Pentecost with the birth of the new nation under the
new covenant, with Jesus as the mediator. (Isaiah 66:7,8) Any Jew who refused to be thus born a second time, by accepting Jesus and the blood of
the covenant, would be dismissed from God's household. (see Paul's explanation
at Galatians 4:17-31)
The need for the Jews to be born again, as Jesus said, was in order for them to
"see" or "enter into the kingdom of God." This kingdom is
the same that he was preaching to them. (Matt. 4:17; 10:5-7) It figured
prominently in God's purpose for, as Jesus said, it was "prepared for you from the founding of the world." "Founding of the
world" refers to the time God first made the promise of raising a seed who would
undo the works of the Devil, and when sinful Adam started to have offspring. (Gen.
3:15; John 3:5; Matt. 25:34; Luke 11:50; Rev. 13:8) Jesus himself is king of that
kingdom, as the prophet Daniel foretold. As the "Son of man" he receives from God
"rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and
languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting
rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought
to ruin." This kingdom will replace all worldly governments. (Dan. 2:44;
7:13,14; Matt. 16:27,28) Jesus promised that the "meek," or "mild tempered ones"
will "inherit the earth." Similarly, he also said, "Come, you who have
been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom," for it is by means of this
kingdom that all the damage that Adam's rebellion brought upon mankind will be
undone, totally erased. They will be joyful subjects of God's kingdom with the
hope of "everlasting life"; the prospect that Adam threw away. (Matt. 5:5; 25:34, 46;
Psalms 37:11, 29)
But Daniel speaks also of "the holy ones of the Supreme One"
who would share rulership with Christ in that kingdom. It is in reference to
this that Peter speaks of a "new birth." (Dan. 7:18, 22, 27; Luke
22:28-30; Rev. 20:6)
This "new birth" is not the same as being "born again." The new birth is
about the selection by God of a few, including Peter, who have been given the hope of ruling with
Christ in the heavens. They are the "holy ones" the prophet Daniel
refers to.
Theirs is "a new birth to a living hope. . .to an
incorruptible and undefiled and unfading inheritance. It is reserved in the
heavens for you." These ones are seen standing with the Lamb upon "the Mount
Zion," who "have been bought from the earth. . .from among mankind as
firstfruits to God and to the Lamb." (1 Peter 1:3; Rev. 14:1-5) This, of course, is made
possible through the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus. Their
hope is something brand new. It did not exist prior to Jesus' resurrection. Not
even John the Baptist shared in the hope of this new birth. (Matt. 11:11; Rev.
20:6)
Whether a person inherits the earth, as God had in mind when he created man, or
is chosen by God to rule in his kingdom with Christ, all are born from God who
becomes their Father and
makes them alive "by virtue of [Christ's] blood." (1 Cor. 15:22; Luke 22:20;
Rev. 7:14) This takes place when they get baptized in water and receive God's spirit. They are brought into
the new covenant, for it is only by means of this covenant
that one can enjoy a relationship with God as one of his people, just as Jehovah
foretold regarding the new covenant: "'I will become their God, and they themselves will become my people.
And they will no more teach each one his companion and each one his brother,
saying, "know Jehovah!" for they will all of them know me, from the least one of
them even to the greatest one of them,' is the utterance of Jehovah. 'For I
shall forgive their error, and their sin I shall remember no more.'” (Jer.
31:33,34; Deut. 7:6,7; Amos
3:2; Mal. 3:16-18)
The terms "born again" and "new birth" are not interchangeable, as most authors
on this subject seem to miss. Often we
believe what we feel most comfortable with. Most people's interpretation of
being "born again" is influenced by their belief that all good people go to
heaven. It is their catch phrase. They are not familiar with God's promise of
the "meek" inheriting the earth. The Scriptures are clear that God created this
earth for man to inhabit, and that is the hope set before the vast majority of
redeemed mankind. (Isaiah 45:18) I hope you take the time to examine
the entire article and consider all the evidence. The truth is really very
simple, and it agrees with all the Scriptures. (Rom. 10:2,3)
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